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Ask yourselves why new immigrants get discriminated and prejudiced. Yes, Canada is aging while its birth rate is decreasing, which means Canada needs immigrants as labour force.

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But meanwhile some local people think we come here to grasp some chances that belong to them in the first place. Besides ourselves, some of us bring our parents here, and our parents cannot produce profits for this country, which is another reason that some local people feel unhappy about immigration.

It is true that China and other developing countries do not have the same social safety net including universal medicare as Canada, so that some local people think we come here to exploit Canada's social welfare.
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Last Updated: 2005-12-28
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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / 想加快父母探亲移民，大家应投保守党 -wind_cloud(风逝云栖); 2005-12-28 {412} (#2683946@0)
    理由如下：
    １．　无论哪个政党上台，除非材料被认定有假，团聚移民都是不会被拒．而材料真假认定，不受党派控制．
    ２．　现在真正的问题问题是父母探亲移民的优先级太低；
    ３．　或者需要提高优先级，　或者降低其他移民数量；
    ４．　迄今无党派许诺提高优先级，而民主政治的第一原则是许诺的好处很难兑现，未许诺的好处不可能出现．
    ５．　ＮＤＰ会大量增加难民的数量及优先级．
    ６．　自由党的难民政策居中，移民数量大大高于保守党．
    • 自由党的难民政策居中，移民数量大大高于保守党. so 大家应投保守党? -whatwhenwherewhy(一生何求); 2005-12-28 (#2683959@0)
      • Good point. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 (#2683977@0)
      • 楼主的意思是，自由党难民政策中，给难民设定的移民额度比保守党高很多。想想那年，自由党做show，受了50多个艾滋病人的难民为移民。每个人1年都要花上百万的费用，都是你我交的税。 -johnnyhatesjazz(Rock and Roll); 2005-12-28 (#2684033@0)
        • So you don't think 父母探亲移民 will 花上百万的费? -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 (#2684043@0)
          • 每个移民要花上百万？怎么算出来的？ -lionel(Lionel); 2005-12-28 (#2684201@0)
            • Who said 每个移民要花上百万? I said when people get old, they will become the cost to medical care system including you and myself. All old people including immigrant or non-immigrant parents will cost more than 上百万. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 (#2684247@0)
            • Go statistics Canada to find out how much old people cost to our medical system. 上百万 is a small cake. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 (#2684252@0)
        • I am not against 父母探亲移民, because I think families should be united, but I want to make a point that no matter what kind of 移民, -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 {91} (#2684054@0)
          as long as people get old, they will be a cost to medical system, including you and myself.
          • 父母移民，首先要过体检，如果有要很多钱的慢性病是没法来的。其次，我们来到加拿大就是纳税人，没有占用国家任何义务教育的费用。 -johnnyhatesjazz(Rock and Roll); 2005-12-28 {108} (#2684068@0)
            你想从小学到高中的教育费总要很多了吧，这些都是我们的父母出的。这和任何贡献都没有，纯粹来享受福利的不一样吧？
            • I agree. But in the eyes of local Canadian, our parents arrive in Canada to enjoy the free medicine, so some of them do not support immigration. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 {122} (#2684084@0)
              And I agree that 从小学到高中的教育费总要很多了吧，这些都是我们的父母出的, but all those happened in China not in Canada.
              • 父母移民来加拿大就是为了免费医疗？ -lionel(Lionel); 2005-12-28 (#2684196@0)
                • Some local people think so. I don't think so, but I agree that when people get old, they will need more medical care, and China doesn't have free medical care, which is the reality. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 {73} (#2684257@0)
                  Canada is a better place for old people. Believe or not, it is up to you.
                • Please don't put your words in my mouth. Reply to others before you do understand what other are saying, thanks. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 (#2684259@0)
                  • You brought the idea to support your statements. Also, who is the "Local Canadian" you referred? -lionel(Lionel); 2005-12-28 (#2684286@0)
                    • By local Canadians, I mean those who were born and grown up in Canada, or the second or after the second generation of immigrants. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 (#2684376@0)
                      • one of them? all of them? some of them? 10%, 20%, 50%, or 90%? -lionel(Lionel); 2005-12-28 (#2684899@0)
                        • I mean some of them. You go figure which percentage that is supposed to be. Sorry but I am not a math teacher. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 (#2685197@0)
                        • Ask yourselves why new immigrants get discriminated and prejudiced. Yes, Canada is aging while its birth rate is decreasing, which means Canada needs immigrants as labour force. -asker(asker); 2005-12-28 {520} (#2685209@0)
                          But meanwhile some local people think we come here to grasp some chances that belong to them in the first place. Besides ourselves, some of us bring our parents here, and our parents cannot produce profits for this country, which is another reason that some local people feel unhappy about immigration.

                          It is true that China and other developing countries do not have the same social safety net including universal medicare as Canada, so that some local people think we come here to exploit Canada's social welfare.
                          • You think immgrant should bow down to Local Canadian's wish to please them, to offer whatever we can to make them happy. My local canadian worker want to take you as his slave. -goodlord(goodlord); 2005-12-29 (#2686113@0)
      • 你没有仔细读我的贴子．我想你在乎的是父母团聚，　并不在乎难民的多少吧？ -wind_cloud(风逝云栖); 2005-12-28 (#2684162@0)
        • 我支持降低难民申请优先级，也不在乎父母团聚的优先级。满意了吧？ -llrm(小陳); 2005-12-28 (#2685263@0)

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