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hmm

buma(buma)
what would we do with domestic violences that man shot his wife and children.
if same logic goes, shall each member of the family go get a gun and to protect themselves from the abusing fathers or partners?
gun right/control and ban are different topics, some people want gun-free, some want gun-control, some want gun-ban.
The balance in Canada at this point is good, I don't want any sides push this issue in any directions. that's why I support gun-control instead of either one of the other two.
if that makes me a leftie, heck, I have been in China for so many years, I will say I am just staying true to myself.
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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / VT枪击案的启示:当一个疯子持枪向你和你的家人冲过来时,真正能保护你和你所爱的人的不是警察, 法院和禁枪法,而是在你手中的一只枪.所以,持枪和用枪的训练,不仅是权利,而是一种男人的义务,和养家保护儿童一样. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2007-4-24 {938} (#3633910@0)
    VT的枪击案中死亡人数之多是因为VT是禁枪区,那里的学生老师只能任人屠杀.

    相对比的是在今年二月, UTAH的Sulejman Talovic持枪在MALL中随意杀人,他也是新移民,几分钟内就杀死了六人.但好在MALL不是禁枪区,一个下班的警察和他对射,他才没有杀更多的人. “禁枪”只不过是让人无法反抗迫害而已.

    澳大利亚1996年开始禁枪,三年后,人民无法保卫自己. 犯罪率大升.两年后,武装抢劫上升了73%,

    “Two years after the ban, there have been further increases in crime: armed robberies by 73 percent; unarmed robberies by 28 percent; kidnappings by 38 percent; assaults by 17 percent; manslaughter by 29 percent, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
    And consider the fact that over the previous 25-year period, Australia had shown a steady decrease both in homicide with firearms and armed robbery --- until the ban.”
    http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/comm8.html
    所以,抛开持枪保卫民主,反抗独裁的大男人的义务不提,每个有家的男人至少要有持枪保卫家庭的勇气和能力.
    • 可以用绷弓子 -dodotoron(哇咧); 2007-4-24 (#3633917@0)
      • 如果绷弓子伤了人,也得禁! -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2007-4-24 (#3633928@0)
        • Has your Harper been trying to scrap the gun registry? -axe(Just A Joke); 2007-4-24 (#3633965@0)
    • 青蛙的听觉器官在后腿 - zt. -buma(buma); 2007-4-24 {394} (#3633987@0)
      某生理学学生要研究青蛙腿的功能，于是将青蛙放在桌上，拍一下桌子，蛙跳1米；然后切去青蛙一条后腿，拍一下桌子，蛙跳0.5米；再切去一条后腿，此时无论怎么拍桌子青蛙都无法跳跃，遂得出结论：青蛙的听觉器官在后腿。
      　　但这还不够，于是该学生继续切除青蛙前腿，饱受折磨的青蛙此时终于一命呜呼，于是该学生惊呼：青蛙的生命中枢位于前腿！

      =====================
      不是我针对你，我看你的推理跟这个小故事有一拼。
      • 至少这些学生们想通过实验来求证.VT事一出就跳出来要禁枪的就像干想得出青蛙的视觉在背上一样. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2007-4-24 (#3634003@0)
        • The little half yankee is such a J E R K. You must hide many guns including your HARPER's. -axe(Just A Joke); 2007-4-24 (#3634006@0)
          • Be honest with you, after the rampage in VT, I am going to get myself a gun at home. Of course, after a month or so. Right now, an Asian holding a gun is not such a good idea. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2007-4-24 (#3634012@0)
            • WOW, are you Asian? I remember that you did claim you are half yankee. -axe(Just A Joke); 2007-4-24 (#3634025@0)
        • heck, two wrongs don't make a right, enough said. -buma(buma); 2007-4-24 (#3634008@0)
          • 你的青蛙寓言和two wrongs，看起来很有哲理，其实什么也没有说。价值接近于零。 -worker1008(worker1008); 2007-4-24 (#3634044@0)
            • hehe, 可能对很多人来说，价值的确就是零， ;) -buma(buma); 2007-4-24 {136} (#3634098@0)
              10 secs of your precious life has gone because of reading this and it will never come back. don't claim that I ruined ur life for that.
              • I guess just want you to make yourself clearer. Being overly subtle sometimes is close to standing for nothing, speaking nothing, which is typical among lefties. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2007-4-24 (#3634190@0)
    • 当一个疯狗张牙舞爪向你和你的家人冲过来时,真正能保护你和你所爱的人的不是警察, 法院和禁狗令,而是在你嘴中的一口牙.所以,咬人或咬狗,不仅是权利,而是一种男人的义务,和养家保护儿童一样.当然前提是你要比疯狗更疯,否则你咬不过它. -wzap(识食物者为俊杰); 2007-4-24 (#3634064@0)
      • 虽然我不觉得楼主的说法很有说服力，不过你的说法更糟，倒像是在为楼主做证明。功力太低啊 -worker1008(worker1008); 2007-4-24 (#3634083@0)
      • 那种情况下, 你准备怎样保护你的孩子?给疯狗上一堂普法课 -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2007-4-24 (#3634183@0)
        • 可怜，你生活在疯狗堆儿里。 -xiaosaihong(箫赛红); 2007-4-26 (#3638285@0)
    • hmm -buma(buma); 2007-4-25 {624} (#3634770@0)
      what would we do with domestic violences that man shot his wife and children.
      if same logic goes, shall each member of the family go get a gun and to protect themselves from the abusing fathers or partners?
      gun right/control and ban are different topics, some people want gun-free, some want gun-control, some want gun-ban.
      The balance in Canada at this point is good, I don't want any sides push this issue in any directions. that's why I support gun-control instead of either one of the other two.
      if that makes me a leftie, heck, I have been in China for so many years, I will say I am just staying true to myself.
    • 不要在那里含混地说事。你就直接地说，到底要怎样。是不是无论走到哪里，都要随身携带一把手枪？ -lionel(Lionel); 2007-4-25 (#3635269@0)
    • 看来是不是该人手一枪啊。比如上班带枪，上学带枪，逛商场带枪，下馆子带枪。 -xiaosaihong(箫赛红); 2007-4-26 {599} (#3638103@0)
      看来是不是该人手一枪啊。比如上班带枪，上学带枪，逛商场带枪，下馆子带枪。雇主要有枪，以防雇员生事。雇员带枪，以防雇主伤人。小学生带枪，不比担心被绑架，中学生带枪，老师不敢虐待。大学生带枪，防止第二赵承炜。老师带枪，镇着捣乱的。教授带枪，防着作弊的。幼儿园老师也带枪，看到黑苗子，先灭了。天主徒带枪，以防神父骚扰。基督徒带枪，可以杀几个异教徒。穆斯林人手一枪，不用再忍气吞声。男的带枪，可以防着bitch。女的带枪，可以不怕强奸。老的带枪，看哪个孩子敢不孝。孩子带枪，看老帮子还敢唧唧歪歪。候选人时候带枪，不选我就灭了你。选民带枪，看着你不爽，蹦了你。
      人手一枪，无处无枪，无时不枪，呜乎哀哉，天下太平也。
      • 要么限制，要么就可能变成这样。 -hhorse(hhorse); 2007-4-26 (#3638290@0)
      • 干脆发展到国家级：每个国家都大量制造造原子弹，洲际导弹。看哪个国家不爽就先炸过去。 -lionel(Lionel); 2007-4-26 (#3638672@0)
      • 上面的俩位左派都是一根筋,你如果想”金兵有狼牙棒,我有老婆孩子的天灵盖”,请便.只是不要用禁枪区等让别人也用天灵盖来顶狼牙棒. VT的学生老师在生命受到威胁时应有机会用枪来保护自己.但”禁枪区”让他们只有被屠杀. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2007-4-27 (#3639165@0)
        • 金兵要是有原子弹呢？你的狼琊榜咋用？ -xiaosaihong(箫赛红); 2007-4-27 (#3639455@0)
          • CHO先生能买到原子弹吗? -sherwood(sherwood); 2007-4-27 (#3639463@0)
            • 所以说嘛，不禁止就可以买得到啊。偶好怕啊。 -xiaosaihong(箫赛红); 2007-4-27 (#3639835@0)
        • 怪可怜呢。昨儿个还说身边有疯狗呢，今天又多了金兵了。 -xiaosaihong(箫赛红); 2007-4-27 (#3639501@0)
    • 持枪并不是一个简单的对错的问题. 因此才在美国陷于长期的争论. 楼主当然代表了一方的观点.并不是没有道理, 而且也很容易理解.对社会和人身造成的损失和枪只的关系也不好简单下结论. -humormaster(李聃); 2007-4-26 (#3638473@0)
      • 李同学说的有理，枪支在美国是个历史问题，也是个文化问题。但是楼主的意图却简单的很，可以用”凡是保守的东西都要支持的“来概括。这位卡尔加里人是”屁股决定脑袋的“。 -xiaosaihong(箫赛红); 2007-4-26 (#3638513@0)
    • What you say might be true. But I feel you always try to put things into a black and white way. But I believe 99% of world is gray,not black and white. I feel you are not neutral, thus your opinion. -win(秋天的菠菜); 2007-4-27 (#3639511@0)
      • Principles are black and white. I believe people should stand for the principles they believe; however they might act practically. Besides, there are enough left propagandas for gun control. I was just trying to balance the debate. -calgarian(ThanksFlames); 2007-4-30 (#3643626@0)

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