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确实很乱,各大媒体也很乱:CBC: Liberals quash rumours of Dion's imminent departure。 可怜人,老老实实当他的老师,也不会有这末多烦恼。

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Liberal officials are denying reports that federal Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion is planning to step down as early as Thursday.

The Toronto Star had cited Liberal party insiders who said Dion would make the announcement on Thursday then stay on as leader until a successor is chosen.

But a spokeswoman for Dion said the Liberal leader will make no such announcement on Thursday and that her office will inform the media when Dion is ready to speak.

She added he won't speak to the media on Thursday.

Dion avoided the subject of his future as party leader in the immediate aftermath of Tuesday's federal election, in which his party lost 19 seats and received only 26 per cent of the popular support.

The Globe and Mail, meanwhile, citing senior Liberal party members, reported Thursday that Dion would face pressure to declare quickly that he will end his leadership and let the party start procedures to replace him.

The paper quoted one well-connected party member as suggesting that if Dion didn't announce his departure promptly, the party should move the furniture out of his office.

"How do you do a putsch on a guy who doesn't understand he's being putsched?" the Globe quoted the unidentified Liberal as saying.

After Tuesday's election results, political consultant David Herle, who chaired the two previous Liberal campaigns, said the party will hold Dion responsible for what he described as a "crushingly bad defeat."

"We are now again, virtually irrelevant in Western Canada and have lost the beachhead we had in British Columbia. The problems in Quebec remain widespread and deep. The NDP and Greens are encroaching on the Liberal party's territory from the left."更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / Dion今天将宣布下台。自由党要用1~2年的时间内斗,调节,稳定。。。未来领袖能力如何都是未知数。Haper可以坐稳他的 Strong Minority Government.
    • 啊,是吗?我还没有看到,不过昨天自由党一个策略家被问自由党是不是需要长期的恢复,他说不用,因为自由党有基础,只要党内结构变动一下就可以了,应该恢复很快的。如果DION下台,我估计要庆祝一下,看他都看烦了,嘿嘿
      • 没那么容易,自由党自从禁止大公司捐款后就一直处于NDP水平。Martin的自传不就攻击克田这些。而保守党政策向中间靠拢,势必挤压自由党向左倾斜。同NDP,green争夺票源。
        • 你说DION为什么不辞职?我都不知道他们是什么策略,是面子还是什么?如果是面子,政治又面子吗、政治可是世界上最不需要面子的工程哦
          • 如果下台,他的政治生涯就完结了,这个可不是面子问题。而选举最后一周的反弹给了他理由。 另外他一定要先摆平他自己选领袖的那80万债务,才辞职,否则他辞职就破产了。
            • 不要为他个人债务操心,政客当中还是有潜规则的,如果他下台有人会给他添坑。这个人不是当领袖的料,其实歪嘴之后Liberals那倆都不是块料
              • 嘿嘿,同意
            • 我觉得这个解释有些牵强了,因为我觉得加拿大政党好象是把政党的前途放在个人前途之上的。不过,我觉得DION最终还是要下台的,SOONER OR LATER。真是麻烦,不知道他心理素质还这么强,还顶得住千夫所指
              • 没那么简单。最终下台是一定的,但道路是曲折的。
                • 政治本来就是复杂的,不过我还从来没有看到DION这么赖的。对不起我的用词了,实在象他今天下午就消失,嘿嘿
                  • 个人认为把自由党的失败原因都归结于Dion身上有欠公允,对他不公平
                    • 他作为领导应该负非常大的责任。这次失败要负责的首先是他,然后是Paul Martin,最后是歪嘴。
                      • 嘿嘿,笑死啦,歪嘴这个称呼也太戏剧了哦。MARTIN还没有多大联系,最主要就是克总理,他亲自亲自打电话给DION AT HOME,让他出来的,简直是,当初克总理谈这个的时候非常非常得意,好象说看吧,只有我是伯乐,天呀
                        • 歪嘴可从来没有拿他当接班人培养,而是让他做部长。当时歪嘴也是看中了他的能力,可以用来打击魁北克的分离主义力量,这个可以说是很明智的选择。Dion做部长还是很称职的,但是做头根本不行。
                          • 我现在还记得当初自由党党内大会热烈的场面,很激动的,当时一个朋友去了,我请不到假,看电视直播一天,确实激动,当时结束后,克总理祝贺DION得胜,然后就得意地说了请DION竞选党魁的事情,所以,罪魁祸首就是克总统,简直是
                      • 在这个时候,任何人担当自由党魁都是必败无疑,因为保守党没有明显漏洞,碳税政纲又实在是不讨好,在保守党中间路线挤压下,没有咸鱼翻身的理由,他没赶上好时候。。。
                        • 嘿嘿,领导人的个人魅力和能力还是很管用的。DION这个样子,就是自由党顶峰的时候,也不见得不败。当然还是自由党MARTIN时候把自己的名声搞臭了,受贿等等,简直是,还是自由党自己不好了
                          • Sponsorship本来不是太大的事情,而且本意是好的,但是Martin拿来做为打击自由党内部左派和中间派的工具,而且同时排除异己,导致自由党分裂,人才流失
                            • 我从来不觉得MARTIN是一个高尚的人,他的公司变相的偷税漏税也不是秘密,简直是,不过再怎么样,他还是懂得经济的,还是比DION好,嘿嘿
                              • 懂经济,所以当财长不错,但是未必是总理的材料。当总理需要有度量,有承担责任的勇气,这两个他都没有。
                    • 是的,作为领导,最大的责任还是该他负的,不过整个政党当初选他就是一个错误,而继让他那样,更是一个错误,嘿嘿
                      • 当时那4块料我都看不上眼。
                        • 嘿嘿,我还是看重GERARD KENNEDY的,尽管好多人不同意
                          • 小屁孩,资历不够,镇不住场子
                            • 天呀,HARPER也是小屁孩哦,嘿嘿,看人不能看年龄的,长江后浪推前浪
    • 其实这是保守党最不愿意看到,将彻底粉碎哈巴的多数政府梦想,因为他将面对的是一个更强大的对手。无论是bob rae 或是 michael ignatieff,都会成为哈巴的终结者。
      • 我看着俩哪个都不灵;如果John Manly上来还可以。
        • JOHN MANLE昨天也被采访了,他还是对自由党充满希望的
      • 如果Bob Rae当上自由党的党领,保守党又可以偷笑了。
        • 那是不可能的,嘿嘿,BOB这次出来帮助DION竞选,都被认为是一种错误,因为他出现在DION旁边,让人们想到他的过去
      • michael ignatieff will be the next leader of liberal
    • 流言,流言,被否定了。他主动辞职的可能性很小。
      • 昨天新闻采访了JAVA KENNEDY, BOB RAY和MICHAEL,都避开他们是不是要竞争党魁,记者问了又问,他们是一再底转弯抹角把话题岔开,嘿嘿,好久没有看到JAVA了,昨天看到他成功在选举打败保守党的候选人,很高兴
        • 他打败的是NDP在任议员
          • 保守党根本就没有要赢那里,很有自知之明。
          • 是的,是NDP,那个人这次是连选,结果没有成功,觉得GERARD KENNEDY还是厉害的,嘿嘿
        • JAVA Kennedy?从来没听说过这人啊,我倒是知道有个叫Lisp的。
          • 笑死啦,嘿嘿,我意识到了,GERARD KENNEDY。和同事朋友EMAIL经常用JAVA KENNEDY,开始是一个同事说,他长得象JAVA,不知道是什么意思
      • 真是谎言满天飞的时代,刚才看了一个网站大标题还是dion要辞职,看了你的帖子再回去一看,变成deny 辞职了。
    • 他在台上对保守党更有好处,说不好某些自由党议员正考虑跳槽呢。
    • 确实很乱,各大媒体也很乱:CBC: Liberals quash rumours of Dion's imminent departure。 可怜人,老老实实当他的老师,也不会有这末多烦恼。
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Liberal officials are denying reports that federal Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion is planning to step down as early as Thursday.

      The Toronto Star had cited Liberal party insiders who said Dion would make the announcement on Thursday then stay on as leader until a successor is chosen.

      But a spokeswoman for Dion said the Liberal leader will make no such announcement on Thursday and that her office will inform the media when Dion is ready to speak.

      She added he won't speak to the media on Thursday.

      Dion avoided the subject of his future as party leader in the immediate aftermath of Tuesday's federal election, in which his party lost 19 seats and received only 26 per cent of the popular support.

      The Globe and Mail, meanwhile, citing senior Liberal party members, reported Thursday that Dion would face pressure to declare quickly that he will end his leadership and let the party start procedures to replace him.

      The paper quoted one well-connected party member as suggesting that if Dion didn't announce his departure promptly, the party should move the furniture out of his office.

      "How do you do a putsch on a guy who doesn't understand he's being putsched?" the Globe quoted the unidentified Liberal as saying.

      After Tuesday's election results, political consultant David Herle, who chaired the two previous Liberal campaigns, said the party will hold Dion responsible for what he described as a "crushingly bad defeat."

      "We are now again, virtually irrelevant in Western Canada and have lost the beachhead we had in British Columbia. The problems in Quebec remain widespread and deep. The NDP and Greens are encroaching on the Liberal party's territory from the left."更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 谁上台都一样。自从哈帕朝左转,NDP的份额上升,自由党就拿不出任何独特的政策来了。大家都说加拿大党派太多,中间派系的自由党会是第一个Out的。多伦多要感谢苗市长成功阻止了NDP的增长,不过苗大卫一个人的力量有限,自由党早晚要出局。
      • 我期待着左派政党合并为同一政党的那一天。然后,哇,好可怕。不过三个政党也不错。四个太多了。
        • Don’t be too excited. 此一时彼一时 Party ends any time.
        • 加国长期的政治趋势是少数党执政,几个小党挤来挤去,一个都不会少
      • 政策不是问题,Liberal这个注册商标还是值钱的,而且比CPC的值钱;但是问题是他们现在没有什么人才。
      • 啊,苗同学组织了NDP的增长?兄长唉,我怎么没有看出来哦。以前CITY TV 24每周一次他晚上出来和观众现场谈话,我都很期待,后来再也不看了,实在是觉得他嘴巴厉害,和LAYTON差不多是纸上谈兵的主,嘿嘿
        • 钉子的意思就是,苗大伟把NDP搞臭了,至少多伦多范围内喜欢NDP的人没有增加
          • 唉呀,谢谢兄长了,我的理解简直是太肤浅了,嘿嘿,现在明白了
    • 这么自信?经济搞不好,下台就在眼前.说什么也白搭.再有,他们那个财长怎么看怎么象个呆鹅,管钱,不灵吧.
      • 费财长是马丁政策的最忠实执行者. 不过他恐怕缺乏马丁那样处理危机的能力. 现在的经济情况最需要马丁这样的人掌舵, 可惜他不会再赶浑水了.
        • Martin实际上就是个阴谋家,不适合做总理,没有容忍的度量,只知道推卸责任,还跑到电视上苦苦哀求加拿大人再给他点时间,简直连个男爷们都算不上
          • 总统或主席应该爷们点儿.总理最好应是阴冒家.
            • Martin属于那种只会阴自己人的人,废物一个
              • 或许精明过了头?但是不错的财长.
                • 不是精明过头,而是根本不是块料还不知道自己吃几碗饭
    • 我看政府明年就得倒台,自由党现在舍命就想翻盘。
      • 没戏。这次是很强的minority,不容易推翻
    • 你怎么乱造谣啊,他宣布啦?