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There are 3 types of seniors' care residences in Ontario

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Supportive Housing
If you are looking for :

Your own apartment near other people who have similar lifestyles and/or social interests
Rental housing with possible government rent-geared-to-income subsidy
Government-funded personal care services
24-hour availability of personal care and support
Other optional services (e.g. meals or social activities)
If you don't need :
Immediate or 24-hour availability of nursing care or specialized health services
Consider : Supportive Housing



Retirement Homes
If you are looking for :

Your own room or apartment near other people who have similar lifestyles and social interests
Wheelchair-accessible rental accommodations
Other optional services (e.g. meals or social activities)
A setting that can adapt to changes in your personal care needs
If you don't need :
Government subsidized rent or care
24-hour availability of nursing care or specialized health services
Consider : Retirement Homes



Long-Term Care Homes
If you are looking for :

24-hour availability of nursing care and high levels of personal care
A setting that can accommodate varying health needs with on-site supervision for your personal safety
Government-funded nursing and personal care
Possibility of subsidized accommodations
If you don't need :
24-hour hospital care更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下家园 / 金秋年华 / 我所了解的老人屋。
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛老人屋大体分两种:senior home 和nursing home。前者是生活完全自理的老人住的。后者是需要护理的老人住的。

    住在老人公寓的老人大多生活愉快。原因很多。首先房租便宜。多伦多的老人公寓一室一厅的月租金约200左右。这是在儿女sponsor的十年期间。十年后,一旦拿到政府钱了,租金按市场价,约600-700的样子。老人们最喜欢的是那是他们的社区,他们的朋友圈。同一栋楼里通常住着很多中国老人。互相交流很方便。老人公寓是政府的房子。政府经常去宣传老人政策,讲健康,定期看牙打预防针。超市周么派车去接送购物。逢年过节的有很多政府的和慈善机构的请帖。

    在外独住,儿女买房的老人享受不到这一切。跟儿女住当然是最好。但是往往是老人的一厢情愿,跟儿媳妇相处尤其难。

    nursing home则完全不一样。nursing home通常是丧偶之后的一方,生活不能完全自理去住。像是集体宿舍。可以选择跟别人合住一间,或独住。合住和独住的租金差别很大。在多伦多,合住的租金占政府给的老人金的大部分(因为是包吃包住包料理)。即使这样,政府还是要补贴的。独住一间要3000/月,不可以享受政府补贴。那些护理员一个人要照顾很多老人的生活(洗澡,穿衣,服药,甚至上厕所)。她们是很没有耐心的。很多老人要么行动不便,要么头脑已经不灵光了。老人之间的交流啊,社区啊已经很有限了。在那里的生活枯燥之极(在我看来)。

    所以要我选择,我不太在意我父母住前者的老年公寓。后面那种能不进去最好。要去nursing home,我还是情愿请人在我家照顾更好。不管哪一种。儿女还是要常探望。每家都有难念的经。相信不能跟父母同住也是各自家庭为和睦相处做出的不得已的选择。更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 老人公寓在什么地点啊?把他们自己放在那里好像不太好吧。
    • There are 3 types of seniors' care residences in Ontario
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Supportive Housing
      If you are looking for :

      Your own apartment near other people who have similar lifestyles and/or social interests
      Rental housing with possible government rent-geared-to-income subsidy
      Government-funded personal care services
      24-hour availability of personal care and support
      Other optional services (e.g. meals or social activities)
      If you don't need :
      Immediate or 24-hour availability of nursing care or specialized health services
      Consider : Supportive Housing



      Retirement Homes
      If you are looking for :

      Your own room or apartment near other people who have similar lifestyles and social interests
      Wheelchair-accessible rental accommodations
      Other optional services (e.g. meals or social activities)
      A setting that can adapt to changes in your personal care needs
      If you don't need :
      Government subsidized rent or care
      24-hour availability of nursing care or specialized health services
      Consider : Retirement Homes



      Long-Term Care Homes
      If you are looking for :

      24-hour availability of nursing care and high levels of personal care
      A setting that can accommodate varying health needs with on-site supervision for your personal safety
      Government-funded nursing and personal care
      Possibility of subsidized accommodations
      If you don't need :
      24-hour hospital care更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 给父母申请老人屋时,household member不包括我们自己吧?我们是不是应该算landlord
      • 你同他们申请老人屋时最好问清楚他们是否心甘情愿去,象我,明明婆婆他们说去,到想帮他们申请时,他却同别人说是我们不想同他们住,其实他们不想去,但又不直说。人家说好的时候,就想申请,另外有人说不好,就不去。不去倒也算了,还同别人说我们不想同他们住。
        • 我父母主动提出的,他们觉得两个家庭在一起肯定会有矛盾,都是家里做主惯的。楼上还没回答我的问题呢?
          • household这个字眼定义比较含混,通常指住在同一屋檐下的所有的人,又无血缘关系的都算。这是加拿大国家统计局人口普查用的定义。household与 dwelling match。至于市政府怎么定义你最好问一文再添。
            • 那就好,幸好你有这样通情达理的父母。
    • 看了楼主的介绍得益得益非浅,实际上目前大多地区华人比较多的附近的老人公寓,都有大陆来的老人居住,当然和好多老人在国内的居所相比,面积要小,但是为了亲情,和子女可以经常的来往,还是选择了居住老人屋。
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛楼主讲的第一种老人屋,有独室套、一室一厅及两室一厅,甚至三室一厅的,多伦多市内的老人屋,一般单身只能申请独室套,夫妇两人可以申请一室一厅,另外两室一厅都是特殊情况才可以申请。选择老人屋是可以和子女分开,有独立的空间,大家比较自由。当然在多伦多地区,华人相对比较集中地区的老人屋,里面住了不少华人,部分老人屋假如包括中、港、台都算的话可能达到30%-40%,但是周边地区如列支文山、万锦等可能相对就少些,在这些地方老人屋居住不懂英语,在沟通上就有些问题,但是我遇到过老夫妇都一点不懂英语,也居住了8、9年的,和邻居就点个头打招呼,真遇到什么事就求救于子女来沟通。收费是居住人收入的30%,但是个区的老人屋要求不一样,列支文山的老人屋要求有“最低”收入保障,就是你在加拿大一分钱收入也没有,但是担保人要些保证书,要给你不低于安大略省规定的“最低”收入。今年的规定不清楚,前2年是规定2个人的收入是791加元。这样30%就是240加元左右,和房屋面积没有关系,住独室套是这个价,住一室一厅也是这个价。本地有的老人收入的30%付房租和市价也差不多,但是也愿意住老人屋,因为这里很“单纯”、安静、安全,没有住着吸毒及“游荡”的人,也就是很少有“犯罪”分子出入。另外老人屋都建在交通方便,通公共交通工具的地方,到医院、图书馆比较方便。有些老人屋内部还有不收费的服务项目,为老人的生活起居提供方便。更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 谢谢,我老了是不是也可以住前者?我是死活不会跟孩子同住的。
    • 请问怎样申请呢?
    • 大家约好一块申请,让老人也有个伴.如何?
    • 在担保期10年之内,租金补贴的部分,是否需要担保人支付?比如租金800,30%的收入只要交200,是否需要担保人(子女)交剩下的600元?如果那样,还不如租正常的apartment了。
      • 差额不用担保人负担。
    • 到哪里找离华人社区近的老年公寓?有网站吗?
    • 我认识一位老人,她住在老年公寓,她属于低收入一类,每月300+电费等,住一室 (studio) with kitchen, bathroom.她的老人金应该够用. of course, she was walting about 5 years.
      • 我打电话去华姿处问老人屋的事,但他给了是这个网站,不是LZ说的,二者有何不同?
        • 就是这个,一回事。
    • The sad fact is a lot of people pass away in the same room that you are living in, which makes it really scary.